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REPORT NO. 2, COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE,
PHASE II, AREA REVIEW /SCHOOL CLOSURE STUDY
TO: Board of Education DATE: 29 November 1999
A meeting of Committee of the Whole Board, Phase II, Area Review /School Closure
Study, was held this evening commencing at 7:30 pm in the Board Room, 133 Greenbank Road,
Nepean, with Trustee Lynn Graham in the Chair, and the following in attendance:
Members: Trustees Cynthia Bled, Albert Chambers, Alex Getty, Patty Ann Hill, Jim
Libbey, Norm MacDonald, Sheryl MacDonald, Pam Morse, and Lynn Scott (by phone).
Staff: Jim Grieve, Director of Education & Secretary of the Board; Rose -Marie Batley,
Superintendent of Facilities & Physical Planning, Superintendents Judith Hoye, Ross Mac-
Donald, Dan Mason, Katherine Saunders, and Judy Turriff; Michael Carson, Manager,
Facilities, Physical Planning and Transportation; Planner Phil Dawes; Robert Giekes,
Technician, and Brenda Cooper, Committee Coordinator.
1. Call to Order
Chair Graham called the meeting to order, and welcomed those in attendance. She
noted that she would call for introduction of the members of the School Study Committee later.
The Director remarked that this was a challenging time, with the area review and
possible school closures. He thanked the members of the School Study Committee for their
many hours of hard work. He also thanked Ross MacDonald, Ron Lynch and Phil Dawes for
their contributions.
2. Al2vrovT al of Agenda
On a motion by Trustee Morse, the agenda was approved as presented.
Public Ouestion Period
Allan Martin submitted that the staff proposal regarding school closures does not take
the Board's guiding principles into account. That is, the implementation of the staff
recommendation would cause overcrowding and reliance on portables and create a mega - school.
These factors would affect the overall quality of education.
4. Presentation by School Study Committee. Gina Rallis & Leigh Mazany
Gina Rallis of the Queen Elizabeth School Council, and Leigh Mazany of the Robert
Hopkins School Council thanked Superintendent Ross MacDonald, Ron Lynch and Phil Dawes
for the professional way in which they made a positive contribution to the School Study
Committee's (SSC) deliberations. The process has improved since last year, and it was very
helpful to have staff available as a resource to the Committee.
Committee of the Whole, Phase II Area Review page 1, 29 November 1999
Assisted by overhead projection, the School Study Committee's presentation was based
on its report. The report was unanimous, and its conclusions were reached by consensus. The
SSC's primary concern is the deleterious effect of the implementation of 100% utilization on the
quality of education. The 100% utilization rate would compromise the focus on students. In
Quadrant C, the impact will be greater, as the proposed utilization factor would be 105% under
the staff proposal.
The Committee members felt that the staff proposal was contrary to the Board's
guiding principles, which call for making students the primary focus and accommodating the
diversity of the community by ensuring equity, accessibility and fairness of learning
opportunity.
The members' specific concerns with the staff proposal were a potentially significant
decrease in the quality of education (loss of programs, overcrowding and adverse effect on
program delivery); equity; the need for a long -term system planning model to deal with
constant school population fluctuations; under -and over - estimation of costs /savings; the impact
on communities; portables; and health and safety.
The SSC is concerned about the conversion and loss of English as a second language, core
French and special education classrooms to regular classrooms; the inability of libraries,
gymnasia and computer labs to handle additional students; the overcrowding of five of the
remaining seven schools without solving the problems of schools outside the greenbelt; the loss
of the MFI program; and the lack of flexibility .
The SSC noted the inequity of having Quadrant C considered in isolation from the rest
of the Board and closing more than the required number of pupil places. The School Study
Committee therefore requests that the Board delay implementation of any Quadrant C closures
until September 2001, in coordination with the reviews of the other quadrants.
Members of the School Study Committee
The member representatives on the School Study Committee were introduced. They
remained at the podium during questions from trustees, taking turns in responding.
The representatives are Carolyn Brereton (Manor Park PS), Karen Ferguson (Carson
Grove PS), Ronan Gourlaouen (Lamina Dow Billings ES), Ada Hallett (York Street PS), Carolyn
Lamoureux (Queen Mary PS), Jack Logan (Henry Munro MS), Leigh Mazany (Robert Hopkins
PS), Julie McInness (Rockcliffe Park PS), David Moen (Le Phare ES), Gina Rallis (Queen
Elizabeth PS), Pierre Seguin (Robert E. Wilson PS), Scott White (Overbrook PS), and Gary
Zinck (community representative).
6. Questions from Trustees
Trustee Bled noted that the School Study Committee's report echoed her own concerns
about the school closure process in Quadrant C, and thanked the SSC for its fair and balanced
presentation, and the members' collaborative approach. Throughout the trustee question
period, trustees echoed Trustee Bled's appreciation of the School Study Committee's hard work
and excellent report.
In response to a query from Trustee Norm MacDonald, the members advised that the
School Study Committee believed that its mandate was to respond to the staff options for
Quadrant C.
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The members did not agree on which schools, if any, should be closed, and did not feel it
was within the School Study Committee's mandate to recommend alternate scenarios or schools
for closure. Although the members would have liked to thorought examine possible alterna-
tives, there was not enough time during the SSC's twice - weekly meetings to do so.
In response to an additional question, the SSC advised that the members recognize that
schools must be closed, but do not feel they know enough about the criteria used to choose the
schools staff recommended for closure to make a specific response. One point the members noted
was that all of the schools recommended for closure are small, and they wondered how this is
reflected in the criteria.
During the ensuing discussion, the members noted their concerns about the timeframe for
the review of the staff options, and the limited time to consider some of the alternatives
developed by staff. They felt that there was only time to examine one scenario in the allotted
time, and urged that the time be lengthened for input from the other quadrants.
The SSC members confirmed that aside from their request to delay Quadrant C
implementation, their only recommendation is to retain middle French immersion in the
quadrant.
Staff confirmed that if any schools not on the current list were named for potential
closure, additional time for notice and response from the community would be required.
7. Delegations
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Sonya Rivera of Lamira Dow Billings expressed concern about closing Lamira
Dow Billings and moving the students to the much larger Henry Munro. She
pointed out that if the staff recommendation is implemented, Henry Munro will
have six or seven portable classrooms, rather than one. The delegation was
also concerned with the cost of renovations at Henry Munro, safety issues, the
lack of adequate outdoor space and playstructures, and transportation.
Ms Rivera stated that Lamira Dow Billings is an asset to the Board, providing
a high quality education in an excellent setting.
(b) Mayor Claudette Cain. City of Gloucester
Mayor Cain of Gloucester expressed appreciation to the members of the School
Study Committee for their excellent work, She remarked that although school
closures are outside of her jurisdiction, the issue is of such importance to the
whole community, she felt it was important to provide input.
She expressed great concern that three of the four schools recommended for closure
are in the City of Gloucester, and particular concern that schools in good condition
(Le Phare, Carson Grove and Lamira Dow Billings) are recommended for closure.
She remarked that Henry Munro is older, requires updating, and would become
overcrowded if the staff options were implemented.
Committee of the Whole, Phase II Area Review page 3, 29 November 1999
Ms Cain noted the changing demographics of the area, and reported that
Ogilvie Walk in the Carson Grove area will attract young families.
In response to inquiries, Mayor Cain stated that while she is aware of the
Board's funding difficulties, Gloucester is not in a position to assist with renova-
tions, which would be another level of downloading. Noting that school boards
have input at every step of the municipal planning process, she suggested that
the Board consider carefully which school to close, especially in view of Henry
Munro's age, etc.
(c) Michel Bellemare, Regional Councillor and Scott Manning, RMOC Planning
Regional Councillor Michel Bellemare expressed concern about school closures
in his community, and the increased busing and portable classrooms which
would result. He also expressed concern about the effect of school closures on the
quality of education.
Councillor Bellemare stated that the province needs to change its policy on
100% occupancy of schools, and noted that this policy is bad for the Regional
Municipality of Ottawa - Carleton (RMOC) for a number of reasons, viz:
• school closures will have a negative impact on stable neighbourhoods;
• the policy threatens child care arrangements in schools;
• the policy goes against the Regional Plan for residential growth inside the
Greenbelt, and the province's own policy against urban sprawl;
• the province's 100% occupancy requirement will force school closures in
older neighbourhoods, thus encouraging further growth in the outer reaches
of the Region; and
• with 3,600 units planned for the Rockcliffe Air Base, the schools proposed for
closure would be needed again.
Mr. Bellemare stressed that Ottawa - Carleton, with its older established
neighbourhoods and rapid growth outside the Greenbelt is unique. In
accordance with a motion by Regional Council, the Region has requested that
the province recognize a two-zone school loading model for Ottawa Carleton.
The Region has also recommended an 80% utilization factor.
In response to a query, Scott Manning confirmed that Regional Planning staff
have ongoing discussions with OCDSB staff regarding new housing develop-
ments, provincial projections, areas for future development, and other planning
issues. In addition, OCDSB staff respond to planning proposals circulated by
the Region.
(d) Rockcliffe Park School Council, Heather Chiasson & George Greene
Heather Chiasson and George Greene noted that Rockcliffe Park Public School
serves students from both Quadrants A and C, and that it is important to the
community that this not change.
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The Rockcliffe Park School Council recommends that the current catchment
area for the school be maintained, and that the Board guarantee that the
current students and the siblings who follow should be grandfathered.
The Council is concerned that Quadrant C is being considered in isolation, and
that an analysis of the long term effect on the community of school closures and
boundary changes has not been done.
Trustee Bled noted that one of the difficulties with the quadrants is that
parents will not know which trustee to phone.
(e) Michael Denny, Gloucester Councillor
Michael Denny reported that he was at the meeting as a parent and as
Councillor for the City of Gloucester. As a Councillor he understands the
restructuring and funding problems that the OCDSB is experiencing.
Mr. Denny displayed a high degree of familiarity with Gloucester schools as
he outlined some of their history, and the way in which demographic changes
come in predictable cycles. He stressed that the proposed school closures are
not in the best interests of the community or of the Board. Referring to a survey
regarding preschoolers, he noted that the school population in the area is
growing again and the need for the schools will continue.
(f) Carson Grove School Council, Chair Karen Ferguson
With the assistance of overhead projection, Karen Ferguson spoke against the
closure of the only school in the area, and displayed a map showing how
dispersed the Carson Grove students would be under the staff proposal for
Quadrant C.
If the staff proposal is implemented, students will be split among three schools
and this is of grave concern to the school community. Describing the school,
Ms Ferguson noted the high number of English as a second language students at
Carson Grove, and the vibrant and inclusive program they enjoy. A "mini
United Nations ", the school has students from sixty -two countries, and
celebrates a multitude of multicultural events throughout the year. This
special community would be harmed by the closure of the school.
It was also noted that the condition of the school, which is not very old, is
excellent, and that it is located in the midst of parkland with access to a
variety of recreational facilities.
Trustees Sheryl MacDonald and Morse confirmed Ms Ferguson's description of
the school, and urged their colleagues to visit Carson Grove.
(g) Le Phare School Council. Chair Louise Maffett & Vice -Chair David Moen
David Moen noted that Le Phare is the newest school in Quadrant C, and
according to the rating by the Plant Department, in the best condition as well.
He noted that Carson Grove is also highly rated, and questioned why the two
highest rated schools in the Quadrant are recommended for closure.
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Mr. Moen submitted that the Board's criteria were not applied in developing
the Quadrant C options. Under the proposal, all students in Gloucester North
would be housed in two schools, and there would be a loss of gymnasia, computer
and recreational facilities. He also noted that students would lose the benefits
of a dedicated French immersion centre.
The Council suggested that a better solution would be the closure of Henry
Munro and Overbrook, which would achieve the 100% occupancy objective.
Renovations to Robert Hopkins or Le Phare would provide all the facilities
available at Henry Munro, at a lower cost than than the renovations required
at Henry Munro.
The Council noted the research indicating the benefits of small schools. Parents
do not want their children to attend Henry Munro, which would have more
than 900 students under the proposed staff scenario.
Staff advised that a response to this proposal would be provided in their
report for the 7 December meeting to review the staffs final proposed options.
(h) Queen Elizabeth School Council, Co -Chair Keith Hansen
Keith Hansen reported that the Queen Elizabeth School Council is concerned
that the closure of Carson Grove and Overbrook will have significant negative
implications for the school. The installation of portables will result in a major
reduction of outdoor playspace, even though more space will be required for the
additional students, and access to the music program and computer and science
labs will be uncertain.
The Council also feels that the staff proposal is inequitable in its approach to
middle French immersion, and to differing grandfathering approaches at each
school. They recommend that any boundary changes be phased in.
Other concerns include dividing children in families between schools and
quadrants; students having to attend a school more distant from their home
even though their current school will remain open; demographic projections;
the impact of school closures in the area by other boards; and safety issues
created by additional buses.
(i) Overbrook School Council, Adrian Spitzer and Chris Ellis
Adrian Spitzer reported that although Overbrook is a small school with only
209 students, it is an excellent school in a great location with excellent teachers,
and is treasured by parents and students alike.
Mr. Spitzer stated that the School Council is fighting for the school and for
continuation of the middle French immersion program. He urged that the
decision on school closures be delayed.
Chris Ellis submitted that no schools should be closed until there has been a
response from the province on 90% pupil loading, and that Quadrant C should
be looked at in concert with the examination of programs, boundaries and school
closures in the other quadrants.
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(j) Denise LePage, Parent
Denise LePage reported that as a design professional she has reviewed the
literature on school size. Most research has concluded that small schools are
generally more beneficial to students.
She referred trustees to appendix B to the School Study Committee's report
which addresses the school size question, and suggested that the Board should
be "right- sizing ", i.e., saving small schools, and closing very large ones.
Ms LePage commented that moving students into large schools such as Henry
Munro may be in accord with the province's aims vis -a -vis education funding,
but it is not in the best interests of children.
In response to queries, Ms Lepage reported that schools are considered small
with 300 -600 students, and that she felt that under 500 is a reasonable
definition. Trustee Chambers noted that provincial funding provides a full -
time principal at 400 students.
Ms Lepage responded to a query about open concept schools by advising that
although noise is of concern in these facilities, it is less important than size.
Carson Grove and Robert Hopkins are open concept schools, and Lamira Dow
Billings has been converted from an open concept to a traditional school.
(k) Hopewell School Council (written presentation only
The Committee noted a letter from the Hopewell School Council wherein the
Council conveyed its consensus on supporting the establishment of a middle
French immersion centre (MFI) at Hopewell for students living in Centretown,
the Glebe, and old Ottawa South. The Council also supports the continuation of
an ME centre in Quadrant C.
The Council also recommends a comprehensive information program about the
middle French immersion program and the selection of a sufficient number of
MFI sites.
The Chair expressed appreciation to everyone for their presentations, and the meeting
adjourned at 11:00 pm.
Lynn Graham, Chair
Committee of the Whole
Area Review/ School Closure Study
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